Wise on Waste team
Mar 24, 2017

Energy from waste

6 comments

Edited: Mar 30, 2017

Is it a good idea that we export some of out waste to Sweden to be burnt to produce energy to heat homes?

IreneS
Apr 7, 2017

I would like to know if this is wasteful in itself, perhaps a very good idea if it isn't wastful, but I do think that we are getting to the stage that we can't put any more in the ground. We're living in an increasingly pongy country with all the stuff going to landfil. One day we will run out of room. It's awful if you live near a tip and the smells from them seem to be spreading throughout the area. Perhaps in the future, everyone will have their own facility in their house! We used to have fires in the house before packaging existed, not much went in the bins in those days. Perhaps bring something similar back but lets not go back to the awful smogs caused by pollution in the past. Do people feel the same still about incinerators? At least something like this would provide energy and get rid of a lot of rubbish. Perhaps technology has moved on and it is worth investigating again.

IreneS
Apr 7, 2017

We hear awful stories about fruit and veg being sent to landfill because they aren't pretty enough. Personally, this wouldn't bother me at all, and I don't think that I'm alone. The other option may be to produce energy from leftovers (biofuel?)

stanley craggs
Apr 9, 2017

what is it costing newcastle city council to sent rubbish to Sweden as that is what happens at this present time if Senden can do it why can we not

peterthomson307
Apr 13, 2017

I strongly object to the leading question at the top, posed by the 'Wise on Waste' team.

 

This section is supposed to be about Energy from Waste (EfW). In addition to incineration, to which I will return, EfW includes: Gasification, Thermal depolymerization, Pyrolysis, Plasma arc gasification, Anaerobic digestion, Fermentation, Mechanical biological treatment.

 

In other words science and technology has advanced significantly in recent years and now offers us a range of options to explore. I hope Wise on Waste does fully explore the potential of harnessing Newcastle's waste stream through these developing techniques.

 

But the disgraceful leading question is silent on these other potentials. Instead it implies a 'no-brainer' question: why are we exporting waste all the way to Sweden for them to create energy from incineration, when we could do it here?

 

Well let the Swedes do as they wish, their country and topology are very different to ours, but there are a number of reasons why not here. Mostly these revolve around the issues of safety. Several recent studies, including a comprehensive study by the Scottish Environmental Agency in 2009, suggest the evidence on whether emissions cause health damage or not is inconclusive. I won't quote lots of scientific jargon here, but the jury is most definitely out. Do we want to take the risk on our, and our children's health?

 

I am especially concerned that 15 years ago communities around Newcastle fought tooth and nail to prevent the Council from re-building the Byker Incineration Plant which, it was subsequently shown, created dangerous emissions and waste. If you live in the west end of the city you may have noticed that Nuns Moor Allotments have recently been razed and the top soil removed. Why? Because of the toxic ash from Byker which was spread on the paths. And I understand that despite these precautions being taken analysis has revealed that the remaining soil is still too toxic to allow food to be grown on it. Do we want to take these risks again?

 

A major problem with the Waste Commission and wiseonwaste is that they are not open about their agenda. It seems to me that they are almost certainly considering incineration in the City again; to do so via the sneaky question heading this section is a travesty of honest public consultation.

Hannah Hales
Apr 21, 2017

I don't know enough about the technicalities to comment as above but if proper safeguards were in place and, given that the technology has moved on, I don't see why creating energy from waste shouldn't be considered. As with all these things there will be a balance between costs and benefits to different schemes which I would like to see clearly explained before a decision is made.

dave1152000
Aug 17, 2017

I would have thought that the main argument against burning waste is no matter what you do it is creating greenhouse gasses that will make global warming worse.

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